Anger at taxman's on the spot checks
SMALL business owners have been upset by an "unprofessional" on the spot swoop by the taxman.
Some in Nailsworth have been angered by the way Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs (HMRC) has implemented a drive to recover more tax revenue.
One said a HMRC inspector read aloud what her business's turnover was, in front of a shopful of customers, and another said his staff felt uncomfortable at the grilling they were subjected to.
"It was quite aggressive," she said. "They asked to see my books but I don't keep them in the shop. Then they asked what my average takings were, in front of customers."
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A staff member showed the inspectors a figure, she said.
"Then he proceeded to read it out loud. That is wholly unprofessional, especially in a small town. Obviously I don't mind showing HMRC my books and anything else they want to see, and I understand why it's done.
She did not want to be named because she feared she may be singled out again, as did another food outlet owner.
HMRC confirmed it has powers to look at books and records, but if asked to leave would make an appointment for seven days later.
Lisa Billard of HMRC said: "We are carrying out checks on grocery and retail businesses in Nailsworth, and the wider south west, to ensure tax obligations are being met and correct taxes paid. These visits may take place when premises are open and customers being served, but we always aim to carry out these checks in a courteous and professional manner.
"We would always investigate any complaints received about the way these checks are conducted by our officers."
For more on this story, see tomorrow's Stroud Life




Comments
by Stranger
Wednesday, September 26 2012, 6:07PM
“The Inland revenue regularly inspect the books of companies, there is a statutory requirement for them to do so. However HMRC appears to have ignored its own Departmental protocols and proceedures for the Inspections, these are available on line and are clear and unambiguous. It is quite evident that these have been broken. We the Citizens of the UK are expected to comply with Taxation rules and regulations but it appears that HMRC/Goverment is above the Law. If you examine the HMRC protocols you will see that there is a UK requirement to comply with the HRA (Human Rights Act) the inspections carried out within these businesses appear to seriously breach the requirements of this Act. I am afraid just stating the requirements of the HMRC by the HMRC spokesperson cuts no ice and the high handed attititude, rudeness, lack of respect and courtesy is inexcusable. No amount of regret will put right the hurt caused to these small business owners. How would you like your personal details read out to a room full of strangers? How would you like details of your income and the names and addresses of your employees read out in the same manner? I feel that there is now an seriously increased risk of harm being done to the workers in the establishments affected as others now know where they live and when/where they are at work.
Why are the inspections being undertaken now? Government has stated that it requires Millions in additional taxes be raised from small businesses. Why? Because of the complete failure of one of their Own Departments which was funded by the Taxpayer and which should have protected the savings of ordinary working people within the British financial system. Due to this Departments Incompetence we ordinary working people are expected to hand over further taxes to the Government to replace these lost funds. While the crisis was underway our clever MP'S of all parties sat by in Parliment and allowed it to happen ( and continued to fill out their expenses forms which have increased dramatically once again)
Now we Plebs are reaping the rewards of their incompetence. The only way to fix the problem as the clever MP's clearly state is to Increase the Tax burden on us Plebs. If this is the best these clever MP's can come up with, will the last person leaving the Country, please turn off the light as we have no hope left.
Dont forget we Plebs voted you into power. If we decide, we can remove that power from you that is true Democracy.
It is quite apparent that we have learned nothing from the financial disaster that has happened and the one that is unfolding before our eyes. We are lions lead by donkeys.”
by Stranger
Wednesday, September 26 2012, 6:05PM
“The Inland revenue regularly inspect the books of companies, there is a statutory requirement for them to do so. However HMRC appears to have ignored its own Departmental protocols and proceedures for the Inspections, these are available on line and are clear and unambiguous. It is quite evident that these have been broken. We the Citizens of the UK are expected to comply with Taxation rules and regulations but it appears that HMRC is above the Law. If you examine the protocols you will see that there is a UK requirement to comply with the HRA (Human Rights Act) the inspections carried out within these businesses appear to seriously breach the requirements of this Act. I am afraid just stating the requirements of the HMRC by the spokesperson Lisa Billard cuts no ice and the high handed attititude, rudeness, lack of respect and courtesy is inexcusable. No amount of regret will put right the hurt caused to these small business owners. How would you like your personal details read out to a room full of strangers? How would you like details of your income and the names and addresses of your employees read out in the same manner? I feel that there is now an seriously increased risk of harm being done to the workers in the establishments affected as others now know where they live and when/where they are at work.
Why are the inspections being undertaken now? Government has stated that it requires Millions in additional taxes be raised from small businesses. Why? Because of the complete failure of one of their Own Departments which was funded by the Taxpayer and which should have protected the savings of ordinary working people within the British financial system. Due to this Departments Incompetence we ordinary working people are expected to hand over further taxes to the Government to replace these lost funds. While the crisis was underway our clever MP'S of all parties sat by in Parliment and allowed it to happen ( and continued to fill out their expenses forms which have increased dramatically once again)
Now we Plebs are reaping the rewards of their incompetence. The only way to fix the problem as the clever MP's clearly state is to Increase the Tax burden on us Plebs. If this is the best these clever MP's can come up with, will the last person leaving the Country, please turn off the light as we have no hope left.
Dont forget we Plebs voted you into power. If we decide, we can remove that power from you that is true Democracy.
It is quite apparent that we have learned nothing from the financial disaster that has happened and the one that is unfolding before our eyes. We are lions lead by donkeys.”
by Stranger
Wednesday, September 26 2012, 6:05PM
“The Inland revenue regularly inspect the books of companies, there is a statutory requirement for them to do so. However HMRC appears to have ignored its own Departmental protocols and proceedures for the Inspections, these are available on line and are clear and unambiguous. It is quite evident that these have been broken. We the Citizens of the UK are expected to comply with Taxation rules and regulations but it appears that HMRC is above the Law. If you examine the protocols you will see that there is a UK requirement to comply with the HRA (Human Rights Act) the inspections carried out within these businesses appear to seriously breach the requirements of this Act. I am afraid just stating the requirements of the HMRC by the spokesperson Lisa Billard cuts no ice and the high handed attititude, rudeness, lack of respect and courtesy is inexcusable. No amount of regret will put right the hurt caused to these small business owners. How would you like your personal details read out to a room full of strangers? How would you like details of your income and the names and addresses of your employees read out in the same manner? I feel that there is now an seriously increased risk of harm being done to the workers in the establishments affected as others now know where they live and when/where they are at work.
Why are the inspections being undertaken now? Government has stated that it requires Millions in additional taxes be raised from small businesses. Why? Because of the complete failure of one of their Own Departments which was funded by the Taxpayer and which should have protected the savings of ordinary working people within the British financial system. Due to this Departments Incompetence we ordinary working people are expected to hand over further taxes to the Government to replace these lost funds. While the crisis was underway our clever MP'S of all parties sat by in Parliment and allowed it to happen ( and continued to fill out their expenses forms which have increased dramatically once again)
Now we Plebs are reaping the rewards of their incompetence. The only way to fix the problem as the clever MP's clearly state is to Increase the Tax burden on us Plebs. If this is the best these clever MP's can come up with, will the last person leaving the Country, please turn off the light as we have no hope left.
Dont forget we Plebs voted you into power. If we decide, we can remove that power from you that is true Democracy.
It is quite apparent that we have learned nothing from the financial disaster that has happened and the one that is unfolding before our eyes. We are lions lead by donkeys.”
by photogirl
Tuesday, September 25 2012, 10:13PM
“They should try Westminster....!”
by verysceptical
Tuesday, September 25 2012, 9:51PM
“"SMALL business owners have been upset by an "unprofessional" on the spot swoop by the taxman.
Some in Nailsworth have been angered by the way Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs (HMRC) has implemented a drive to recover more tax revenue."
ONE business owner in Nailsworth has been quoted as far as I can ascertain from the article.
And judging by the quotes from the person in question, I would imagine she was less than helpful when the inspector called. They dont do these visits as randomly as you might imagine so just maybe they had reason to call...
Dont forget that HMRC have greater powers to enter your premises than the police.”
by Douglasknows
Tuesday, September 25 2012, 5:03PM
“It's about time the tax people started more examinations of books. But there is a way of doing it, I'd say 3 working days notice is enough. Too many people are not declaring true records and therefore not paying the correct tax but if they have nothing to fear then the only problem is one of inconvenience.”