GCHQ expert says ID cards won't combat terrorism
A GCHQ expert has described government claims ID cards will stop terrorist attacks as "bunkum".
Harvey Mattinson, a senior consultant at the Cheltenham intelligence base, dismissed claims by PM Gordon Brown and Home Secretary Jacqui Smith that a national ID card scheme would increase national security.
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Both politicians have argued cards issued to every UK citizen, as well as transient workers, would help stop a repeat of terrorist attacks like 9/11 or the London Tube attacks.
But Mr Mattinson, who works for CESG department, which provides advice to Government departments on IT security, said: "Those claims are absolute bunkum."
He claimed their main use would be to help government departments and enforcement agencies share information about people.
Addressing the Society of Information Technology Management annual conference, he said: "ID cards are vital for transformation government, you cannot share information without identity authentication.
"We have got to get this right because it is stopping us doing our business. We need biometric as well as biographical data – we will have to build up the information on the chip."
The ID card scheme will start next month, when cards will be issued to foreign nationals. Late next year, the £4 billion programme will be extended to employees in sensitive roles or locations, such as airports. From 2010, the cards will be available voluntarily to the young.
Cheltenham MP Martin Horwood also called the cards' usefulness into question.
He said: "I can't see how ID cards could have stopped any of the major terrorist attacks we have seen in recent years.
"The 9/11 terrorists had valid US passports and documents, while the Madrid and London bombers were all identified and possessed appropriate paperwork and ID."
GCHQ said Mr Mattison's comments were made at the sidelines of the conference and did not reflect GCHQ's view.
A spokesman said: "The Government believes ID cards can play an important part in countering terrorism, crime and other threats.
"GCHQ is supporting a range of Government programmes on identity management."











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by CT Derrick, Bristol
Tuesday, November 11 2008, 5:59PM
“Sticking microchips in people has been considered for a long time....it's very, very scarey. I find it incredible that any sane person would actually willingly sign up to this scheme; do they really know the true implications? There would be a mass move by government to force people to use their ID for everything; from buying a bus ticket, to buying food, driving a car and just generally living.....in other words, if you aint got an ID card then you die.
If debit and credit plastics are replaced by a compulsory ID card then I will willingly starve to death for lack for food.
I believe the major problem lies not so much with the card but the sheer amount of PERSONAL information that the government wants to put on them. With huge databases underlying the whole thing, we would all be tracked like rats in the UK maze. Utter control, total obedience. He who controls data controls the people. Control the people, rule the world. My God, what are we coming to?”
by Adrian Tawse, Dorset
Saturday, November 01 2008, 10:45AM
“To understand both the present and the possible future you have to understand two things. The first is that this government is employing vastly more consultants than any government before. These are employees of the same firms that are likely to make vast fortunes from the roject. These people are unlikely to recommend that the project had no worth, they would be unlikely to stay in employment long if they did.
The second point is that any organisation tends to accrue power to itself. It is part of being an organisation. Commercial concerns tend to want to create monopoly situations, governments try to annihilate the opposition. Information is power. If you have tabs on what everyone is doing the temptation to use it to suppress opposition will be irresistible. There will always be the excuse that ¿I know best, therefore anyone who opposes me is bad ¿ I have a duty to stop them.¿ We have developed rules of law and democracy to be able to boot out those who get above themselves but modern computer systems, and other techniques of surveillance are a new dimension that we do not have the tools to deal with. I have no argument with the ID card as such, it is the database and is all encompassing scope that I object to. The whole point of this database is to share all this information amongst all those who can make a case to see it that is the danger. The temptation to use it for purposes the people, as opposed to the government, would not regard as benign will become irresistible.”
by Tom Stickland, Stroud
Friday, October 31 2008, 2:59PM
“I'm pleased to see that many others share my concerns about the "wonders" of the ID card and "National Identity Register". You can read all about it at no2id (google it).”
by Steve, Cheltenham
Friday, October 31 2008, 2:28PM
“Chris, I think you're ALMOST right. The Government knows that ID cards won't work, but if they can get the populace to accept the idea of a central database that holds all vital information about you,, they can then turn around and say that cards are too easily forged, and therefore, you must accept a microchip so that fraud isn't so easy.
We're seen by the Elite as Sheep that need to be herded from one pen to another. The easiest way to do that is through fear, in the same way as the sheep dog serves up big dishes of it for sheep. Make us scared of 'terrorists' to make us more compliant, then collectively move our psyche from one pen to another.
Law-abiding citizens DO have something to fear. Even peaceful protest is now classed as political dissent, and when these systems come into force, woe betide anyone who objects to the manufactured socialist state-of-quo.”
by Chris, Gloucester
Friday, October 31 2008, 1:53PM
“I've got a feeling this dopey government knows ID cards will be a waste of money but to actually listen to opinion goes against the grain and would be seen as losing face. So here's an idea for them. Tell us all the idea is being shelved in view of the expense and the current economic situation. We can all forget about it then until some other dopey government official brings it up sometime in the future.”