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New M5 shopping mall plan could 'rip heart' out of town centres

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Friday, June 29, 2012
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A PROPOSED shopping centre by the M5 could “rip the heart out of Stroud” and threaten the viability of Gloucester’s multi-million pound King’s Square development.

Developers have indicated they would be willing to develop a site next to Junction 13 for retail and leisure use.

  1. Proposed retail park site

    Proposed retail park site

But Stroud District Councillor David Drew (Lab, Farmhill and Paganhill) has spoken out against the idea.

“I understand that junction 13 is being suggested for a major retail park that would rip the heart out of Stroud,” he told Stroud Town Councillors on Monday.

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“We have to be on our guard that this doesn’t happen.

“It’s speculative at the moment.

“But because the planning process is in disarray we have to be aware that developers will try it on.

“There’s every planning reason why it shouldn’t happen but we know that doesn’t necessarily turn out that way.”

Peter Gilbert of Stroud District Council’s planning team confirmed the council had been approached by a developer on behalf of the landowner, concerning a site adjacent to the A419 between Junction 13 of the M5 and Chipmans Platt roundabout near Eastington.

“They suggested that the land was suitable for further industrial use, a degree of retail, perhaps a sort of outlet centre, and leisure related activities,” he said.

Mr Gilbert stressed that the submission by an agent on behalf of development firm St Modwen was one of 2,000 comments received by the council during its consultation on its draft Core Strategy.

“The council has not considered it in any way and it is certainly not something that we are planning or suggesting.”

The site is just nine miles from Gloucester city centre and 23 miles from Cribbs Causeway shopping centre in Bristol.

Mr Drew, former MP for Stroud, has already spoken out against proposals to build 1,500 houses at Nupend and warned that developers may try to build a shopping centre as part of any housing development.

An out-of-town shopping centre would affect Stroud’s town centre, but also Gloucester and Cheltenham, he suggested.

Coun Paul James, leader of Gloucester City Council, agreed that a retail development on the M5 would affect Gloucester.

“We would be strongly opposed to anything that might prejudice development in the centre of Gloucester,” he said.

“With the state of the economy, things like the King’s Quarter development are fairly marginal in terms of their viability.

“Anything that sucks away tenants would be something that we would oppose and could potentially impact on the viability of it going ahead.”

“The Government has made clear in its planning guidelines that there should be a ‘town centre first’ approach to retail.

“So anything that could be accommodated within the town or city centre should not be allowed in out of town locations.”

Town centre bosses are confident Cheltenham can hold its own if the proposed shopping mall becomes a reality.

Cheltenham shopping boss Martin Quantock is not concerned and thinks it could bring more trade to the town.

He said: “The outlet village at Swindon is classed as a tourist destination. They get coachloads of people going there and they don’t just stay at the outlet village. They go into the town as well.”

He said Cheltenham has already shown it could deal with competition after concern the opening of Gloucester Quays and Bristol’s Cabot Circus would take trade away.

“As far as I am concerned, Cheltenham is strong enough to be able to attract customers to the town. I’m sure it would withstand any competition which opened on the edge of the motorway,” he said.

“Cheltenham is a package, with its parks and gardens, festivals and cafe culture. If you come to Cheltenham you are not just buying into the shops, you are buying into the whole environment.

“No shopping centre on the edge of a motorway could ever provide that.”

The developers were not available to comment.

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  • Profile image for CBCGCCMORONS

    by CBCGCCMORONS

    Tuesday, July 03 2012, 11:01AM

    “Screw the over priced town centres! Bring on free parking!”

  • Profile image for Katana_Paul

    by Katana_Paul

    Monday, July 02 2012, 1:52PM

    “Further to @flat-broke's comment -- 6% - that's not a typo - *just 6%* of the UK is considered "built upon" leaving a whopping 94% of our great nation green and unspoilt. So they say...

    I'm no great fan of the Daily Snail... but this is a good visual representation of what that actually looks like : http://tinyurl.com/43d4laq

    Even with that in mind, I'm no fan of the proposed development either. My missus spends *way* too much time "just browsing" in the already developed "shops" as this generally means several more things will appear from the myserious depths of the wardrobe... "Oh no dear, I've had this for ages..."!!”

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    by Flat-Broke Films Ltd

    Monday, July 02 2012, 9:48AM

    “This strange idea that there are no green fields left in UK is crazy--you've only got to look out of any airplane window to see millions of acres of green open areas especially in the South West, Wales, North England, Norfolk and Scotland. A few extra developments of shops or housing can easily be absorbed.”

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    by Flat-Broke Films Ltd

    Sunday, July 01 2012, 9:15AM

    “All competition is good--it keeps local towns thinking of ways to encourage good-quality shops into its centres like the Quays in Gloucester and Regent Arcade in Cheltenham. Parking charges are another matter as driving to retail outlets appears FREE, but of course your paying for it in the shop's prices and fuel used to drive there and back. Nothing is for FREE!”

  • Profile image for Lord_Haw_Haw

    by Lord_Haw_Haw

    Saturday, June 30 2012, 12:30AM

    “His Lordship says don't develop. Let's save a bit of countryside for succeeding generations...”

  • Profile image for ShorterNews

    by ShorterNews

    Friday, June 29 2012, 10:22PM

    “Stroud improved greatly when Woolworth's closed. It was nothing more than a glorified pound shop anyway, so it's better off being a smaller chain pound shop in my book. The town centre has a great selection of independent retailers of clothing, gifts, food, music, books.... If you're too blind to see it, then i'm not surprised you're upset at Woolies' demise. If you want Woolworth-style shopping, just go to Gloucester.”

  • Profile image for bonzaharris1

    by bonzaharris1

    Friday, June 29 2012, 9:04PM

    “cortezcortez, we were going to try Ludlow on our way back off holiday yesterday, as you know by the news reports it was a disaster area. Did visit Chester Tuesday, lovely town, as is Worcester even Coventry was a surprisingly attractive town into comparison to what is on offer in Gloucester. Gets a bit expensive though travelling miles to find somewhere decent. Retail parks arn't the answer shaking up what we have would be good.”

  • Profile image for cortezcortez

    by cortezcortez

    Friday, June 29 2012, 8:10PM

    “If you want to wander around a nice little town try Ludlow high street .Stroud died the day the council
    Fenced off the high street in the late 70's due to some scum protesting on the roof top next to the TSB”

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    by bonzaharris1

    Friday, June 29 2012, 7:46PM

    “Nib nobs, the parking charges in Stroud are negligable, about £1 for 2 hours, its not a good move to kill off towns and cities. Personally I like Stroud, nice little town to wander around and Home Bargains and Wilko's offer good value. Gloucester in comparison is a dump. Its a pity they didn't spend money on doing up the city centre rather than building the Quays. It would also have served to keep it a decent tourist town, as it is it must be killing off tourist visits to the cathedral, the one good point the city has. We have visited to a few other towns over the last few years, and they all knocked Gloucester into a cocked hat, shame really.”

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    by cheltdav1

    Friday, June 29 2012, 7:20PM

    “bring it on the developers would of dome there homework!!”

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