People of ethnic minorities twice as likely to be stopped and searched by police in Gloucestershire

“Notice how they 'shout' black on the headline, more statistics:

• Proportionally, blacks in England and Wales commit significantly more violent crimes – of all kinds – than whites
• Blacks are 6.6 times more likely than whites to commit murder
• Blacks are 7.3 times more likely than whites to commit firearms offences
• Blacks are 3.7 times more likely than whites to commit rape
• Blacks commit over a quarter of robberies in England and Wales, despite being only 3.3% of the population.

They are over 12 times more likely than whites to commit robbery
• Proportionally, Asians commit marginally more violent crime than whites.

They are more likely to commit murder, rape and robbery, and less likely to possess firearms, blades, or steal from a person”

“Notice how they 'shout' black on the headline, more statistics:

• Proportionally, blacks in England and Wales commit significantly more violent crimes – of all kinds – than whites
• Blacks are 6.6 times more likely than whites to commit murder
• Blacks are 7.3 times more likely than whites to commit firearms offences
• Blacks are 3.7 times more likely than whites to commit rape
• Blacks commit over a quarter of robberies in England and Wales, despite being only 3.3% of the population.

They are over 12 times more likely than whites to commit robbery
• Proportionally, Asians commit marginally more violent crime than whites.

They are more likely to commit murder, rape and robbery, and less likely to possess firearms, blades, or steal from a person”

“Notice how they 'shout' black on the headline, more statistics:

• Proportionally, blacks in England and Wales commit significantly more violent crimes – of all kinds – than whites
• Blacks are 6.6 times more likely than whites to commit murder
• Blacks are 7.3 times more likely than whites to commit firearms offences
• Blacks are 3.7 times more likely than whites to commit rape
• Blacks commit over a quarter of robberies in England and Wales, despite being only 3.3% of the population.

They are over 12 times more likely than whites to commit robbery
• Proportionally, Asians commit marginally more violent crime than whites.

They are more likely to commit murder, rape and robbery, and less likely to possess firearms, blades, or steal from a person”

“As Justica says" not giving descriptions if the perpetrator happens to be of a 'ethnic minority'."

Unfortunately, whether anyone likes it or not, "colour" has to come into it when it comes to describing people and it doesn't mean it's racist. Look at the following:-

"Male, aged 52, 6.0' tall, short dark hair, dark eyebrows, slim to average build".

This description fits both Barack Obama and Joe Pasquale but add the word "black" or "white" and you would then know who it meant. Several times I have read descriptions of wanted people that have left out the colour of their skin which, in all cases would be a big help in apprehending them. People are so afraid of being deemed racist at the merest mention of anything these days. Even certain expressions entirely unconnected with racism like Baa Baa Black Sheep don't seem to be sung these days and a few years ago someone decided to call accident black spots hot spots in case if offended anyone!”

“Delroy is running with the 'hare and the hounds' - Delroy said he is NOT surprised at the 'figures' and the poor innocent little dears are only winding the police up - in other words; he's not surprsied that the police are still 'racist' but try not to stop too many non-whites because, they're just winding the poice up.

Leave the police alone.

http://tinyurl.com/au6l34t

...at this rate TiG will be repeating the same story 3 times a day...”

“An emphatic 'Indeed' to the last few comments. It's a sad thing when the phrase 'Political Correctness Gone Mad' has to be deployed in a totally non-ironic manner...”

“"Twelve per cent of London's men are black. But 54 per cent of the street crimes committed by men in London, along with 46 per cent of the knife crimes and more than half of the gun crimes, are thought by the Metropolitan Police to have been committed by black men." Telegraph June 210

The article also goes on to say
"In the 21st century, the principal grounds on which the Met is accused of racism is that black men make up a much higher proportion of the people stopped and searched by police officers than any other ethnic group.

The Equality Commission assumes that such a practice shows that officers must be covertly racist.

But the disproportionate number of black men identified by victims as perpetrators demonstrates that racism need not have anything to do with it: when the victim identifies the assailant as a black male, it is logical, indeed necessary, for officers to start investigating black suspects.

That may lead them to stop and search black males who are in the vicinity and who have other characteristics identified by the victim.

Officers from the Met could, of course, stop and search old white women or middle-aged Asian mothers instead.

That might end the "disproportionality". It would also be totally useless as a way of identifying and catching the people responsible for street crime.

When a disproportionate number of victims identify their attackers as black males, it is not easy to see what the Met can do to investigate those crimes without being criticised for "disproportionately targeting black men".

And yet a failure to catch the perpetrators of violent crime is not going to help anyone, least of all members of the black community, who are so disproportionately the criminals' victims. "”

“Walker 100 you have hit the nail on the head. That is the important fact that is not addressed by this story. Let's see those figures broken down by parish and alongside demographic of that parish, then we will know the true picture.”

“As is often said, there are lies, damn lies and statistics. You can pretty much make statistics say what you want.

The population figure quoted is for Gloucestershire. This includes rural areas where the BME population is extremely low as a percentage. The police presence is also extremely low in rural areas and stop and search is nearly unheard of.

The vast majority, if not all, of stop and searches are carried out in the towns and cities where there is a far higher percentage of BMEs. If you removed the rural population figures I have no doubt that the percentage of stop and searches on white and BMEs would be a lot closer.

The question I would ask is what was the average age and sex of the stops. I have few doubts it was mostly young males. Does this mean that police were showing prejudice toward young males? I doubt it. I would assume it was because police actually know what they are doing the vast majority of the time and know it tends to be adolescent males that are most likely to be carrying drugs or weapons.”

“Around 1958 give or take a couple of years, my father was in the police force. He arrested a Jamaican man who had assaulted him and the man ended up in Court. My father never forgot the words of the magistrate who said "If you had been a white man I would have sent you to prison" and so he got some other "punishment". Assault is assault is assault, and whether it's a police officer or whether it's Joe Bloggs, the punishment should not be different because you are not white.

Getting back to the report, why aren't white people up in arms about being stopped considering that 3,251 out of a total of 3,958 were white which leaves 431. As we're told that 426 black, Asian or other were stopped then who were the other eleven?”