Police rule out new dig to find missing Mary Bastholm
GLOUCESTERSHIRE Police say they will not start searching for the body of missing Mary Bastholm.
Miss Bastholm disappeared in 1968 and it has been suspected for years that serial killer Fred West had abducted and murdered her.
An online petition was launched earlier this month by Chris Roberts calling on police to excavate The Oasis Cafe - formerly the Pop-In Cafe - in Southgate Street to look for her remains.
Today Chief Constable Tony Melville responded to the petition saying his officers would not be digging up the cafe.
Mr Melville has written an open to Mr Roberts explaining his decision.
The letter in full follows:
Dear Mr Roberts,
We have now had the opportunity to review the information contained in your letter in conjunction with the material we hold from the 1994 investigation into the activities of Fred and Rosemary West and the 1968 enquiry into the disappearance of Mary Bastholm.
In your letter you refer to ‘six known and irrefutable facts’ concerning the relationship between Mary and Fred West and you call for us to explain why the Pop-In Cafe was not forensically analysed following the discovery of Mary’s exercise book in the toilet area in 1994, asking us to revisit that decision now.
It is unusual for us to give the level of detail that will follow but I do so because of scale of public interest in the case and at the request of Mary’s family, who relive the trauma of her loss each time her disappearance is revisited publicly; the facts often being intertwined with varying levels of inaccuracy and urban myth.
I hope that the following response to each of the ‘facts’ you presented will help you, and all those who signed the petition, to understand the reasons why we will not be conducting searches at the Pop-In Cafe in relation to Mary’s disappearance.
• Fred was a regular customer of the cafe and knew Mary
The 1994 investigation found supporting evidence of this although this was always denied by Fred West.
• Mary was seen in West’s car on more than one occasion
There is evidence from the 1994 inquiry which tends to suggest this but it is in no way categoric.
• West admitted to his son Stephen and to Janet Leach that he had killed Mary
Fred West was, and remains, the only suspect for the suspected abduction and murder of Mary Bastholm. In interview he denied it. No information about Mary’s whereabouts has ever come to light.
• West did the basement toilet conversion at the cafe around the time of Mary’s disappearance. A major part of this conversion was the laying of a concrete floor
This is not true. The owner of the cafe was in possession of the property long before Mary disappeared and no work took place on the building until the late 70s. None of that work was conducted by West.
• West’s known modus operandi was to bury his victims
This is correct.
• At the time of West’s arrest in 1994, the then tenant of the cafe reported to the police that he had found a school exercise book belonging to Mary secreted behind the brickwork in the toilet area. This book was collected by police but the Bastholm family were not informed of its discovery.
The tenant contacted police in 1994 about a book he had discovered amongst junk and rubble in the basement – not in the brickwork. It was an old cafe diary which was not connected to Mary. It had no relevance to Mary or her family.
On the basis of the above facts, it is our view that any search of the Pop-In Cafe would be entirely disproportionate and without foundation. There is simply no evidence to support the idea that Mary is buried in that location. We have visited Mary’s family to explain this and they are wholly supportive of this course of action.
Having answered your request for straight unequivocal answers, I would now politely make the request for the i-petition calling for the cafe to be searched in relation to Mary’s disappearance to be removed. Having furnished you with the full facts, you will now be aware that some of your information was flawed and is misleading to the hundreds of people who have subsequently signed the document.
I agree entirely with the sentiment you express at the end of your letter – that is your desire to find and return Mary to her family. I don’t believe there is one of us in Gloucestershire Constabulary who wouldn’t want the same conclusion.
If there is tangible new information which comes to light and may lead us to Mary’s final resting place we will, of course, consider it in conjunction with the material we already hold. We will, however, not revisit this decision without new and compelling information.
Yours sincerely
Tony Melville
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Police have now urged Mr Roberts, who lives in Ross-on-Wye, to delete the petition from the internet.
It currently has 329 signatures, with many of those signing it saying officers should not stop their hunt until a body is found.
Mr Roberts said: "I won't be taking the petition down – whether he did work on the cafe or not is a moot point, the police think Mary Bastholm is old news and that's why they are saying this.
"They can't make me take it down."
Alice Taylor, who runs the cafe now, said: "It just goes to show that false things can be spread so easily before being challenged.
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"It's the family of Mary I feel sorry for, things like this circulate on the internet and there is no truth to it.
"We've had people come in here recently who talk about the rumours and stories, but it's not true.
"When we took over this cafe 11 years ago from the previous owners, they knew Mary and it was terrible for them.
"But everyone needs to show some respect for the family and not say things that are untrue.
"The whole thing is really very sad for everyone in Gloucester."
The cafe has been there for 55 years in total and is still popular in the city.









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by Andrew_Powell
Tuesday, January 24 2012, 6:36PM
“Fred West said that he would reveal one body a year so that each year he'd have a day out from prison. He mentioned that lasting for 20 years.
He only directed the Police to locations of named victims and he never named Mary, ergo the police have never dug for Mary at all.”
by Kay_Powell
Tuesday, January 24 2012, 5:27PM
“I'm pretty sure that when Fred was caught and realised that the game was up, he took police to a number of locations where he had buried bodies. After a number of digs, various bodies were found, but Mary's wasn't one of them. These would have been the previous digs.
I imagine that most of Fred's work would have been off the books. Realistically, there can't be many things that haven't already been thought of.”
by Andrew_Powell
Tuesday, January 24 2012, 5:05PM
“"Alice Taylor, who runs the cafe now, said: "It just goes to show that false things can be spread so easily before being challenged.
"It's the family of Mary I feel sorry for, things like this circulate on the internet and there is no truth to it.
"We've had people come in here recently who talk about the rumours and stories, but it's not true."
She is entitled to her opinion and I respect that but she is guided by the police response to the petition, which as has been said before, has a nasty pong about it. Having only been at the cafe for 11 years, she wouldn't know what was true and what isn't.”
by Andrew_Powell
Tuesday, January 24 2012, 4:46PM
“It's interesting how this item was reported by TiG
"Police rule out new dig to find missing Mary Bastholm"
Anyone know where the old dig was?
"GLOUCESTERSHIRE Police say they will not start searching for the body of missing Mary Bastholm."
Indeed.”
by Alchemies
Tuesday, January 24 2012, 4:07PM
“Well, TimGlos, if it can be done perfectly legally by private individuals, then let us know how you get on.”
by Andrew_Powell
Tuesday, January 24 2012, 4:00PM
“"it can be done perfectly legally by private individuals I don't know why you think that if the police aren't involved it will suddenly become illegal! "
Without the owners permission ?”
by Kay_Powell
Tuesday, January 24 2012, 3:53PM
“TimGlos,
I'm afraid that your idea of looking at historic planning applications is a non-starter. Most of the work carried out by Fred West wouldn't have required planning permission. That's why Mary's body hasn't been found - it's been all guesswork.”
by Andrew_Powell
Tuesday, January 24 2012, 1:41PM
“Polly the URL works fine although it is not a hyperlink.
Anyway, if it makes it easier for you;
http://tinyurl.com/6tsmkfs”
by TimGlos
Tuesday, January 24 2012, 1:32PM
“Andrew, alchemies, you are both very selective about what part of my comments you are responding to. Perhaps this is a result of taking flack from people i don't know.
Alchemies, it can be done perfectly legally by private individuals I don't know why you think that if the police aren't involved it will suddenly become illegal! I'm just commenting with an interest in some of the responses to the petition. If I had sufficient incentive/ interest/ believe in something enough to do something... it gets done (not old enough yet for life to have kicked that out of me just yet) but it seems like (as I've said previously IF you believe in what you are saying) that you are quite prepared to give up on a belief just because a single organisation (the police in this case) thinks there is no basis for that belief? This is why I feel that there is a lack of motivation to actually do anything... It is easy enough to sign a petition, but if someone puts their name to something but are totally unwilling to do anything else to support that conviction then what weight does that persons persons signature actually carry in support of it?
Similarly both you and Andrew say that you want the fuss to die down over this article yet you both respond to baiting regarding it and indeed come back with very defensive, selective replies about my comments despite the fact that I am trying very hard to be practical about the whole thing and not judgemental.”
by Alchemies
Tuesday, January 24 2012, 1:03PM
“'I think this topic has been done to death with all the points made ad infinitum'.
Same here, so perhaps anyone unhappy with signing the petition can remove their name from it and perhaps those who didn't sign it can find something else to discuss.
Unless of course, the petition is merely being used as a means of trolling.”